they met a lot again before the new year. they had an awful lot of discussions about the fiscal cliff, and they couldn't reach a deal. if you're coming into a discussion with different views that can't be reconciled, can you actually get anything done? >> there's 535 members of congress, 100 senators and 435 in the house. if you're not talking but to just a couple of people, you're not going to get a broad view of what's going on in america and what needs to be done. i really proscribe that there's more people in the senate, whether it be democrats or republicans, that are well intentioned that want to get something accomplished. they just haven't had the opportunity. no labels provides that vehicle, that venue. if you want to solve a problem, if you're in congress right now and you're as frustrated as i am, whether you're democrat or republican, then join no labels and come to our problem solving meetings. you can speak openly to your colleagues that you never even met. john, the bottom line is the american people, they don'